PC posted a link to the Quatloos blog in which a poster there has tapped into the mystery of AIRD. Check this out:
http://www.quatloos.com/Tax-Forums/viewtopic.php?p=126180#126180
JJ, you could probably relate to this guy!
I don't know about you folks, but I've always thought that Arbonne was basically just a warehouse pumping out products as long as suckers were willing to frontload. Oh yeah....... Arbonne strictly prohibits frontloading. HA!!
You are right Cat, I can relate and empathize with this fella. The big difference between he and I is that I no longer have my "problem". My divorce should be finalized within 30 days :-)
Posted by: JJ | May 10, 2006 at 09:21 AM
JJ - can you believe this??? When I saw the pictures of Beaubelle and the building - it's the SAME building that AIRD sign was pasted on...
Posted by: pinkcadillac | May 10, 2006 at 09:29 AM
Oh, I believe it. You know me, I'll believe anything BAD about arbonne!!
Posted by: JJ | May 10, 2006 at 09:54 AM
But this is awesome, because now we KNOW that Arbonne products are NOT exclusive to Arbonne
heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Posted by: pinkcadillac | May 10, 2006 at 10:42 AM
If you guys really want to make an impact on Arbonne then all of you need to file a complaint a bbb.org. It is really simple you just fill in the blanks why you are upset w/Arbonne and then tell them what you would like Arbonne to do to fix it. The more people that do this the BBB has no choice but to investigate and if they find something then they will lose the "A" rating they rely on. If you don't report this stuff to the correct agencies then it is not made public and everyone has to find out the hard way like we did. Also my atty. general has forwarded everything to the CA. consumer affairs dept. so everyone needs to call them 916-445-1254 also. I do strongly recommend calling the FTC 1-888-382-1222 and report Arbonne that is really easy because they take your complaint over the phone. Like I keep saying it is so important that everyone do this that can.
Posted by: norton_girl | May 10, 2006 at 11:23 AM
I just called Arbonne and asked if I could have the address & phone # to the Aird lab and they told me I would have to send an email to "[email protected]" because none of that info is on file. Why not?????
Posted by: norton_girl | May 10, 2006 at 11:37 AM
Cat, I've got an email coming your way. Look for it.
Posted by: Leah | May 10, 2006 at 11:46 AM
Norton girl: I called Arbonne with the exact same question last winter - I posted the transcript of the phone conversation on my blog - it's also posted here on Cat's site. Look in the sidebar, it's labeled "A Phone Call to Arbonne"
Posted by: pinkcadillac | May 10, 2006 at 11:52 AM
Sorry P.C. I didn't see it. My bad.
Posted by: norton_girl | May 10, 2006 at 11:56 AM
no biggie - you can see they didn't give me any meaningful information either.
:P
Posted by: pinkcadillac | May 10, 2006 at 12:33 PM
Oh, by the way, Norton Girl, you were talking about T-shirts. I happen to deal with a company that custom makes any t-shirt you want. They have lots of colors and they carry women's sizes (surprising how many don't). They just made me a t-shirt that says, "I'm with the Band" for when I go watch my cute boyfriend play his gigs. Of course, Band is written right across the boobs, which just makes the whole thing hilarious in my twisted mind. I get a lot of compliments, though.
Okay, back On topic...as long as it's not copyright infringement, these people would totally do something. I'm all about something dealing with the Orange Fog, because it's showing sisterhood with the screwed ex-MKers.
Posted by: Leah | May 10, 2006 at 12:38 PM
uh - what's the significance of the color orange?
Is it used in the product packaging? (like pink is in MK?)
This is so funny - if you guys have an Arbonne Survivors reunion, you'll have to post the pictures here for everyone to see!
Posted by: pinkcadillac | May 10, 2006 at 01:28 PM
The RE9 line is orange, as are most of the marketing materials that came out with its popularity. The introduction of the RE9 line is what shot Arbonne to the fame that it's at today, so orange is an easy color to associate with it. It's not like a company color or anything, but what are you going to do, use the White Fog for the Mercedes? Orange just sounds better.
Posted by: Leah | May 10, 2006 at 01:35 PM
So, this is slightly OT from this particular post but I had to share. I had two Arbonne "encounters" today. First, I was at a meeting at church and when I went to pick my son up from the nursery, one of the nursery workers was giving another church mom the Results Approach. She was giving her the bag of products and saying how it was "all natural" (uh huh...). Later, I was picking my other child up from school and the teacher was passing off the hype to a parent. Same thing - "all natural". Right. I really should have set her straight but she is my child's teacher after all. I just chucked to myself. BTW, love all this talk about orange fog, etc. I live in Atlanta but my (ex) upline is from Virginia.
Posted by: unplugged | May 10, 2006 at 04:16 PM
So, this is slightly OT from this particular post but I had to share. I had two Arbonne "encounters" today. First, I was at a meeting at church and when I went to pick my son up from the nursery, one of the nursery workers was giving another church mom the Results Approach. She was giving her the bag of products and saying how it was "all natural" (uh huh...). Later, I was picking my other child up from school and the teacher was passing off the hype to a parent. Same thing - "all natural". Right. I really should have set her straight but she is my child's teacher after all. I just chucked to myself. BTW, love all this talk about orange fog, etc. I live in Atlanta but my (ex) upline is from Virginia.
Posted by: unplugged | May 10, 2006 at 04:18 PM
Sorry for the double post and that should have been "chuckled" but I guess the "chucked" would have worked just as well...
Posted by: unplugged | May 10, 2006 at 04:19 PM
Hey Leah--If we decide to do an "Arbonne protest" at the center then I think we should get the t-shirts. About the copy right infringement---I have no idea, but they could sue all of us & we would be glad to hand over our contaminated "gold bags"!!!!!
Posted by: norton_girl | May 10, 2006 at 04:31 PM
What will the t-shirts say? I think you can put the name on a t-shirt if you make the shirt yourself and aren't "selling" them, know what I mean?
Or you could just do something generic like "Pyramid Scam Artists in this building!"
and march around in front of the building...
OMG this is so exciting. Will you guys take video, pleeeeeeaaaase????
Posted by: pinkcadillac | May 10, 2006 at 05:14 PM
My friend came up with the idea to get orange t-shirts w/white or gold letters that says "my upline drives a white mercedes and all I got was this lousy t-shirt" on the front. On the back she wants to put quotes "what's your why" "learn & burn" "dare to dream" etc.
Posted by: norton_girl | May 10, 2006 at 05:20 PM
No. That sounds like you're jealous. It has to be more like "I worked the plan exactly as they told me to, and all I ended up with was this lousy T-shirt and credit card debt."
Make it clear that the system is to blame for the failure of so many.
For what it's worth.
Posted by: Lady Dacia - Mistress of the Dual-End Applicators | May 10, 2006 at 05:48 PM
"I worked they plan exactly as they told me to, instead of reading the companies Policies and Procedures, and all I got was this lousy tee-shirt and a credit card debt." Place the blame where it belongs.
Posted by: Cassandra | May 10, 2006 at 05:54 PM
Hey Lady D--much better! The last thing we want is for those b@3%#*es to think we are jealous. What you came up with is exactly the truth except you forgot to say we ended up with several contaminated "employees". LOL!!!!
Posted by: norton_girl | May 10, 2006 at 05:58 PM
Cassandra--what does reading the policies & procedures have to do w/these arbot ladies blatantly lying, misleading, manipulating,& cheating their way to to the top? Plus Arbonne executive vice-pres. could care less that they are doing this so what the freak. These ladies stood on stage w/Rita Davenport in June '05 and were recognized for being the fastest growing nation. It's pathetic that they are getting away with this.
Posted by: norton_girl | May 10, 2006 at 06:08 PM
hey Cat - could you please email me? I can't find your email address!
[email protected]
Posted by: pinkcadillac | May 10, 2006 at 06:11 PM
I know Tammy, however, you wouldn't have been in this situation from the very beginning if it wasn't for several factors... 1. your upline's unethical way, and 2. not doing your due diligence. I believe that home office is trying to do "damage control" because of your upline (which doesn't stop at A.S.). I do understand your viewpoints, truly I do, I hate that there are teams in our company working their businesses in this manner, because it gives people like me a bad name, I have worked my biz hard as a DM for nearly a year and now am in qualifications for AM, when those doing the biz unethically are getting to AM in a matter of 2 to 4 months. If I had everyone sign up for the "minimum" that 'she' did, I would be an NVP at this point, but I don't work my biz that way.
Posted by: Cassandra | May 10, 2006 at 06:17 PM